KJW G23 Mag problem -- Gas won't go in!

jerryliang2k · February 21st, 2006, 12:56

I got a G23 yesterday. This morning I wanted to take a few shots with it in my basement so I load it up with BBs. But when I tried to put gas in the mag (I'm using propane with AI's adaptor) nothing goes in.

I pressed the adaptor all the way into the mag's nozzle but no gas went in. However, the gun does seem to take a little gas if i very gently press the adaptor into the nozzle but most of it just sprays out.

I thought It may be my adaptor or my propane tank so I tried it on my Desert Eagle mag and it filled fine. So I'm pretty sure its something wrong with the G23's mag. Anyone else experienced this problem? Any solutions?

thanks in advance

CDN_Stalker · February 21st, 2006, 13:41

GBB mags all have different personalities. Some you need to press down hard to get gas in, others you need just a gentle press and hold. Try a few different types of press and listen to the slight hiss sound of the gas going in. Liquid propane coming out means you are pressing too hard, not pressing hard enough, or the mag is full.

^Hyperion^ · February 21st, 2006, 18:10

I love GBBs , they are my favorite guns but I must say they are ALL tricky , just as you'Ve said Stalker.

They are all different , so dont be shy of trying new techniques on each and every one

Dozer_01 · February 21st, 2006, 18:21

GBB's are shit. Everyone of the bastards are different...lol

I had a problem with one of my M203 shells. It wouldnt fill up so i put silicon oil in the valve and left it over night. I havnt had a problem since. I know this doesnt make sence...but it works now...

CDN_Stalker · February 21st, 2006, 18:34

Try dealing with those new Wei E Tech Dragon Hicapas, they are the worst so far I've seen. Solid yes, but Apoc bought two of them, gave one to me to fix (out of the box) cuz the hammer wouldn't catch at all. A fair chunk of oil later, I was shooting it, but had to unhook the hammer from underneath the slide. Often when I'd pull the trigger, the hammer wouldn't latch, so I had a full auto GBB on my hands. So, I bring his other one that worked perfectly home to put some oil in to make sure it didn't end up like the screwed up one, guess what? It's doing the exact same thing as the non-working one! Wanna see Stalker pull a "Teuettes Guy" on something? How is it that adding a bit of oil in the right places causes mechanical malfunctions in a GBB?

Jerry, saw you had another issue with the feedlips on your G23, did you get that fixed up fine? Kinda pointless to start a new thread for each problem with the same gun.

jerryliang2k · February 21st, 2006, 22:26

I didn't have any other problems with this gun... you may have gotten my post mixed up with the one about the bbs not staying in the mag - that was posted by someone else. Didn't wanna highjack his thread so I started this one.

Anyways, I'll try the lube trick... Doesn't make sense but its worth a shot.

Rico · February 21st, 2006, 22:50

If I can recall correctly, my old KJ beretta had an O-ring in the fill valve. Is there an O-ring (or lack thereof) in your valve? Not sure if KJ glocks and berettas have the same valves.

G_unit · February 21st, 2006, 23:09

Umm I have a KJW G23 and well, I have 3 spare mags with it, none have any problems, try pressing harder, they do require a little force to let gas in.

CDN_Stalker · February 22nd, 2006, 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryliang2k

I didn't have any other problems with this gun... you may have gotten my post mixed up with the one about the bbs not staying in the mag - that was posted by someone else. Didn't wanna highjack his thread so I started this one.

Anyways, I'll try the lube trick... Doesn't make sense but its worth a shot.

Sorry about that, guess I did mistake the two (considering both of you say you just received the same gun at the same time, fired a few shots off in the basement, found acoupe issues, etc. it's an honest mistake.) :tup:

jerryliang2k · February 27th, 2006, 01:35

Well, I've been trying everything mentioned here, I tried lubing up the fill valve, and tried pressing harder - no luck on either accounts.

And no, there is no O-ring, Ricoius. I'll struggle with this a bit more but if all else fails i'll probably be looking for a refund...

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February 21st, 2006, 12:56	#1
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	KJW G23 Mag problem -- Gas won't go in! I got a G23 yesterday. This morning I wanted to take a few shots with it in my basement so I load it up with BBs. But when I tried to put gas in the mag (I'm using propane with AI's adaptor) nothing goes in. I pressed the adaptor all the way into the mag's nozzle but no gas went in. However, the gun does seem to take a little gas if i very gently press the adaptor into the nozzle but most of it just sprays out. I thought It may be my adaptor or my propane tank so I tried it on my Desert Eagle mag and it filled fine. So I'm pretty sure its something wrong with the G23's mag. Anyone else experienced this problem? Any solutions? thanks in advance

February 21st, 2006, 13:41	#2
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	GBB mags all have different personalities. Some you need to press down hard to get gas in, others you need just a gentle press and hold. Try a few different types of press and listen to the slight hiss sound of the gas going in. Liquid propane coming out means you are pressing too hard, not pressing hard enough, or the mag is full. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 21st, 2006, 18:10	#3
^Hyperion^ Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec	I love GBBs , they are my favorite guns but I must say they are ALL tricky , just as you'Ve said Stalker. They are all different , so dont be shy of trying new techniques on each and every one __________________

February 21st, 2006, 18:21	#4
Dozer_01 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ontario	GBB's are shit. Everyone of the bastards are different...lol I had a problem with one of my M203 shells. It wouldnt fill up so i put silicon oil in the valve and left it over night. I havnt had a problem since. I know this doesnt make sence...but it works now... __________________ LLTP

February 21st, 2006, 18:34	#5
CDN_Stalker Official ASC Bladesmith Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ont.	Try dealing with those new Wei E Tech Dragon Hicapas, they are the worst so far I've seen. Solid yes, but Apoc bought two of them, gave one to me to fix (out of the box) cuz the hammer wouldn't catch at all. A fair chunk of oil later, I was shooting it, but had to unhook the hammer from underneath the slide. Often when I'd pull the trigger, the hammer wouldn't latch, so I had a full auto GBB on my hands. So, I bring his other one that worked perfectly home to put some oil in to make sure it didn't end up like the screwed up one, guess what? It's doing the exact same thing as the non-working one! Wanna see Stalker pull a "Teuettes Guy" on something? How is it that adding a bit of oil in the right places causes mechanical malfunctions in a GBB? Jerry, saw you had another issue with the feedlips on your G23, did you get that fixed up fine? Kinda pointless to start a new thread for each problem with the same gun. __________________ STKR Knives http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/STK...17036668380871

February 21st, 2006, 22:26	#6
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	I didn't have any other problems with this gun... you may have gotten my post mixed up with the one about the bbs not staying in the mag - that was posted by someone else. Didn't wanna highjack his thread so I started this one. Anyways, I'll try the lube trick... Doesn't make sense but its worth a shot.

February 21st, 2006, 22:50	#7
Rico Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mississauga, On	If I can recall correctly, my old KJ beretta had an O-ring in the fill valve. Is there an O-ring (or lack thereof) in your valve? Not sure if KJ glocks and berettas have the same valves.

February 21st, 2006, 23:09	#8
G_unit Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Red Deer	Umm I have a KJW G23 and well, I have 3 spare mags with it, none have any problems, try pressing harder, they do require a little force to let gas in.

February 27th, 2006, 01:35	#10
jerryliang2k Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississauga, ON	Well, I've been trying everything mentioned here, I tried lubing up the fill valve, and tried pressing harder - no luck on either accounts. And no, there is no O-ring, Ricoius. I'll struggle with this a bit more but if all else fails i'll probably be looking for a refund...

KJW G23 Mag problem -- Gas won't go in!

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