Question to TM Glock 17 owner

[waltherglocksmith]

hi,

I just bought a gas blowback TM Glock 17 3rd gen. What is the best gas to use in this gun?,
Green gas or Propane, or other?

Thanks

[Donster]

green gas = propane. They are the same thing.

For the TM, use propane, but it would be best to upgrade it to a metal slide.

[RacingManiac]

"best gas" for what? Power and kick, propane. Reliability/durability, duster. You will break the front inner frame screw post running on propane. Its a matter of time.

[Stealthee]

Originally Posted by RacingManiac

"best gas" for what? Power and kick, propane. Reliability/durability, duster. You will break the front inner frame screw post running on propane. Its a matter of time.

Do you mean this?



Are all TM internals (Left end) made up of mostly plastic like on the TM Glock?

[RacingManiac]

If you unscrew that, and remove the trigger and take down lever, that front metal slide rail/frame will come out. And it will reveal a plastic post which the screw screws into. I have broken that post on TM frame using a Guarder steel slide with propane, broken it on a 1st gen Guarder frame with the same setup. Now I am using a 2nd gen Guarder frame(now with metal insert), But I have reinforced the front frame with JB weld to distribute the load through out the front section, which should help it survive now. I have also broken a stock(meaning plastic slide) TM G18C's post, running propane. It is also on a 2nd Gen Guarder frame now with JB weld reinforcement....

[waltherglocksmith]

For the TM, use propane, but it would be best to upgrade it to a metal slide.

Should I change the stock spring?, or the stock one will handle the metal slide?,

Will I have less power with metal slide because of the weight of it compare to the ABS slide?

So the duster gas is better for maintain the gun in good condition? does it lube the gun? or do I have to lube it manually?

I bought that oil for lubing my airgun, do yo think it will do the job on the TM glock?

http://www.airgunsource.com/store/in...216-7505&c=145

thanks to all for your help

[RacingManiac]

Metal slide won't affect power, it will affect gas consumption because it'll use more gas to cycle the heavier slide, but BB is shot out before the slide start cycling. Stock spring can cycle the heavier slide, just a lot slower.

Its not that duster lubes the gun, the high pressure gas imparts more force on the plastic frame, and increases the wear and tear on its structural components. Duster is just easier on things. But if you want to run metal slide, you will want to use propane since the gun will cycle much more sluggishly...

[waltherglocksmith]

Thanks for the informations, i can now see clearer trough this new hobby for me.

I got another question on the TM glock 17, :

is this gun got the exact same dimensions as the real glock 9mm?
I want to order the safariland 6280 holster for the glock 17 and want to make sure it will fit.

Thx:-)

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by waltherglocksmith

I bought that oil for lubing my airgun, do yo think it will do the job on the TM glock?

http://www.airgunsource.com/store/in...216-7505&c=145

DO NOT use that lube in your airsoft gun. It most likely has petroleum ingredients.

[waltherglocksmith]

Can I use silicone spray or gigaloo? or what do you suggest?, I also have 3 in 1 general purpose oil.

[Adamlxlx]

3-1 will eat your rubber. It says it won't on the can but its a petroleum product so it will. Get rc shock damper silicon oil from a hobby shop.

[L473ncy]

Either one of these are what you'll want:

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...k-Oil-10wt-2oz

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...k-Oil-15wt-2oz

[RacingManiac]

Originally Posted by waltherglocksmith

Thanks for the informations, i can now see clearer trough this new hobby for me.

I got another question on the TM glock 17, :

is this gun got the exact same dimensions as the real glock 9mm?
I want to order the safariland 6280 holster for the glock 17 and want to make sure it will fit.

Thx:-)

TM Glock is generally slightly bigger than their RS counter part, I think the frame is slightly wider/taller. A molded kydex style holster will usually be tight with them. I think some put the gun in them and use a heat gun to heat up the plastic holster such that when it cools down it'll retail the "expanded" shape. Personally I'd tend to get holster with adjustment screw for draw tension(ie, Bladetech), so you can loosen it up a bit to accommodate for the size difference. Some also had luck ordering the Holster for .45 Glock, as in RS they have fatter framel.

[waltherglocksmith]

thanks for the info for the oil and for the TM size,
will order the 6280 and will heat it if needed.
thanks!

[waltherglocksmith]

does the green gas smell something?, I just tried propane indoor tonight, works great, lots of power, but... smell all over the place in 30 seconds, is there an odorless alternative?,