UMP: G&G or STAR?+ Battle of the Bullpups

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 00:32

I've got my eye on getting a UMP, I'm done with the AR platform for now. I got a chance to use a friend's G&G at a game once, and it was one of the most fun games I ever played.

My question to you guys is, would you recommend the Star/Ares or the G&G?

So far I'm leaning toward the G&G, as the mags seem more common, and they seem to be easier to get in Canada. I like upgrading my guns (esp. Compression system and barrel/hop up) so that's something to take into account as well, which one takes upgrades better?

Short Round · September 22nd, 2010, 10:06

G&G, personally I'm not a fan of Star but that's just me. My friend does have the UMG by G&G and it handles well, now it was upgraded but still, overall a solid gun.

I guess you can't go wrong with UMPs, as there aren't a lot of models out on the market (other then the G&G, CA, and Star).

Just make sure you find a specific custom UMG battery as it doesn't take regular batteries.

Good luck

DarkAngel · September 22nd, 2010, 12:31

CA makes a UMP.
I highly recommend it over the G&G and STAR.

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 14:15

Holy cockandballs I forgot about CA. Well that's pretty much settled then. What is the mag compatibility on them?

Rabbit · September 22nd, 2010, 14:43

Speaking from expirience with a G&G UMG i'd go with one over any other. After doing a good amount of research before buying, i've also read that the CA make drains a battery at a much faster rate than the G&G brand - yes this was done on a comparison.

A lot of people expect full metal with CA, but just keep in mind pretty much 90% of a UMP in real life is not metal.

ROF is also insane on the G&G UMG with a 9.6v if you're into that at all.

Short Round · September 22nd, 2010, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Holy cockandballs I forgot about CA. Well that's pretty much settled then. What is the mag compatibility on them?

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=103742

BAM!

cjboi · September 22nd, 2010, 15:29

CA's internals vs G&G internals? hmmmm I say G&G wins. Taiwan product over China product.

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 15:37

Well I'd be replacing CA's horrible piston of doom anyway, since I get aftermarket pistons in all my guns (stock ones always break on me).

Thanks for the link

DarkAngel · September 22nd, 2010, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjboi

CA's internals vs G&G internals? hmmmm I say G&G wins. Taiwan product over China product.

*choke* What?!

CA isnt China (Mainland), its Hong Kong. Theres a HUGE difference.

CA has far better quality internals than G&G. Both in QC and Materials.

G&G may be getting better than the paperweights that they used to sell, but theres no way in hell they compare in quality to a CA. As for Stock fps, that is not a measure of quality, so dont even bother mentioning out of box fps.

cjboi · September 22nd, 2010, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

*choke* What?!

CA isnt China (Mainland), its Hong Kong. Theres a HUGE difference.

CA has far better quality internals than G&G. Both in QC and Materials.

G&G may be getting better than the paperweights that they used to sell, but theres no way in hell they compare in quality to a CA. As for Stock fps, that is not a measure of quality, so dont even bother mentioning out of box fps.

that's still in CHINA lol (china made)... I know for a fact CA's gears are great and the externals, but that's it. I personally like G&G UMP over CA UMC.
What im trying to say, G&G UMP out of the box is good, CA out of the box is also good. You might wanna change the piston head for G&G UMP for better air seal and for CA UMP you might have to change the piston, piston head, bushings and the nozzle. External wise both the same... I hope this helps you spike

GBear · September 22nd, 2010, 17:25

I was wondering this question myself. Thank you guys! However, I was told to go with a MP5 instead, although I would like a UMP.

Taxt · September 22nd, 2010, 17:42

I have G&G UMG with painted upper reciever. I really like it. Great rate of fire, groupings, fps. Solid construction.
Goes trough 8.4v 1300mAh like there is no tommorow though.

Taxt · September 22nd, 2010, 17:47

My recommendation would be, if you need a small capable gun. Go with MP5SD6 or similar. It probably be lighter a little, shorter mags which you actually can find, sliding stock (big plus on my books), won't look as badass as UMG but hey..

Spike · September 22nd, 2010, 18:15

Thanks for the info guys. I'm actually at a tossup on what I want my new primary to be, and it's down between the UMP and the Tavor. If I pick the UMP, i'll go with either the G&G or the CA, for sure.

Short Round · September 22nd, 2010, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Thanks for the info guys. I'm actually at a tossup on what I want my new primary to be, and it's down between the UMP and the Tavor. If I pick the UMP, i'll go with either the G&G or the CA, for sure.

Tavor haha that gun is a sexy beast, hands down.

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September 22nd, 2010, 00:32	#1
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	UMP: G&G or STAR?+ Battle of the Bullpups I've got my eye on getting a UMP, I'm done with the AR platform for now. I got a chance to use a friend's G&G at a game once, and it was one of the most fun games I ever played. My question to you guys is, would you recommend the Star/Ares or the G&G? So far I'm leaning toward the G&G, as the mags seem more common, and they seem to be easier to get in Canada. I like upgrading my guns (esp. Compression system and barrel/hop up) so that's something to take into account as well, which one takes upgrades better? __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks. Last edited by Spike; September 24th, 2010 at 16:06..

September 22nd, 2010, 12:31	#3
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	CA makes a UMP. I highly recommend it over the G&G and STAR. __________________ Certified Sniper Clinic Instructor and Counter Sniper Sentinel Arms Customs - Specializing In Unique, One of a kind guns

September 22nd, 2010, 14:15	#4
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	Holy cockandballs I forgot about CA. Well that's pretty much settled then. What is the mag compatibility on them? __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

September 22nd, 2010, 10:06	#2
Short Round Najohn Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SkyDome	G&G, personally I'm not a fan of Star but that's just me. My friend does have the UMG by G&G and it handles well, now it was upgraded but still, overall a solid gun. I guess you can't go wrong with UMPs, as there aren't a lot of models out on the market (other then the G&G, CA, and Star). Just make sure you find a specific custom UMG battery as it doesn't take regular batteries. Good luck

September 22nd, 2010, 14:43	#5
Rabbit formerly FrankieCees, Remylebeau Trader rating Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hamilton	Speaking from expirience with a G&G UMG i'd go with one over any other. After doing a good amount of research before buying, i've also read that the CA make drains a battery at a much faster rate than the G&G brand - yes this was done on a comparison. A lot of people expect full metal with CA, but just keep in mind pretty much 90% of a UMP in real life is not metal. ROF is also insane on the G&G UMG with a 9.6v if you're into that at all.

September 22nd, 2010, 15:29	#7
cjboi Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: manitoba	CA's internals vs G&G internals? hmmmm I say G&G wins. Taiwan product over China product. __________________ how can you help someone else if they're not willing to help themselves. Last edited by cjboi; September 22nd, 2010 at 15:31..

September 22nd, 2010, 15:37	#8
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	Well I'd be replacing CA's horrible piston of doom anyway, since I get aftermarket pistons in all my guns (stock ones always break on me). Thanks for the link __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

September 22nd, 2010, 17:42	#12
Taxt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto	I have G&G UMG with painted upper reciever. I really like it. Great rate of fire, groupings, fps. Solid construction. Goes trough 8.4v 1300mAh like there is no tommorow though.

September 22nd, 2010, 17:47	#13
Taxt Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto	My recommendation would be, if you need a small capable gun. Go with MP5SD6 or similar. It probably be lighter a little, shorter mags which you actually can find, sliding stock (big plus on my books), won't look as badass as UMG but hey..

September 22nd, 2010, 18:15	#14
Spike Privateer Airsoft Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Beaverbank, NS	Thanks for the info guys. I'm actually at a tossup on what I want my new primary to be, and it's down between the UMP and the Tavor. If I pick the UMP, i'll go with either the G&G or the CA, for sure. __________________ I change primaries like other people change socks.

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