Choosing the right GBB

[Crunchmeister]

You can see the guns I own in my sig. Of all of them, the "cheap" KJW is by far my favorite. It shoots accuratly, has excellent range, and hits hard. The only issue is the mags tend to leak. Since I started lowering the amount of propane I fill them with (about 4 seconds instead of 7-8), I haven't had a problem That lower fill allows me to fire off one mag of BBs only, but that's why I have several mags. The down side is that it's not very upgradable. The only upgrade I have is a 150% recoil spring, but out of the box, it's great and I don't see it as needing anything extra for a field pistol. CQB where attachments such as lights and lasers would be useful, it's not a good choice. But KJW make other M9 models with rails for such a purpose.

My TM P226 is also a great gun. Had problems with it in its stock form, but since I upgraded to a metal slide, tightbore, plus some other enhanced internals, it's great. However, it's a fucking gas hog, and on a 10+ second load of propane, I can only get one mag of BBs off per fill.

My KSC Glock 17 is a kickass pistol. I've upgraded it with a tightbore metal slide, and stiffer springs, and it's awesome. Good power, quite accurate, and all around very reliable.

So it's all a matter of preference. I think they're all good choices.

[Azriel_Strife]

KJW fullmetal P226 all the way, most realiztic in terms of weight feel and sound. It's simply intimidating to hear it in the field, easily the loudest gun out there

It shoots straight and perfect out of the box, I'm chroming my barrel, breech and slide pin, gonna look sexy.

Another thing, the TM's may be good guns, but even if the slide doesn't break you have to worry about bashing it around. with the KJW you can drop it in dirt or hit the deck hard with no worries about hurting your gun.

[lykurgus]

sorry stryfe i have to disaggree,, i have several tm pistols that have been bashed around a fair amount,, my tm g26 and tm 5.1 are scratched but still kick ass.

ive used my g26 for probably close to 2 years with no up grades and just regular maintainance and i can shoot marbles off of my coffee table at 30 ft with regularity,, and with the three or four pistols i shoot regularly ive never had to replace a slide, or fix leaky mags.

with the collecting ive done ive had all the major brands and in my experience nothing does better than a TM out of the box, even the previous gens.

sound wise the TM 5.1 hicappa is hard to beat.

metal upgrades are pricey but ive never done it or had to do it,, i i cant see myself starting,, id rather just buy another pistol.

i also own a few KSC pistols im quite fond of.

[ThunderCactus]

Originally Posted by Azriel_Strife

easily the loudest gun out there

Is it a KJ CO2 pistol? Because the full metal KJ M9 CO2 pistol is the loudest GBB pistol I've ever heard.

[kilolima]

So from what I've read I think I'll go with the TM 226. I'm not looking to pimp it out, so what sorta things do i need to worry about when its in stock form?

[Goodl2ussian]

nottin really. just maybe get a better recoil spring.

[Crunchmeister]

I can second the TM P226 as being a nice solid gun, but seeing the issues that I and a few others have had with brand new, current model P226s, you may want to read the thread below before making a decision.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51328

I can't say for sure that they all suffer this problem, but the number of people on this forum alone who've had this issue suggests there may be a lot of guns that will develop this problem sooner rather than later.

Other than the slide problem though, it fired hard and straight and performed quite well. Looks gorgeous too. Now I have my mine upgraded with a metal slide and I love it. It looking great and it's a pleasure to shoot. And I don't have the slide lock problem anymore.

If you get one and intend on keeping it stock, I would recommend a 150% recoil spring if you intend to use it with propane.

[ProbeJax]

Aren't some of the KJ guns made with pot metal? I read in a couple of reviews that they were.

[Crunchmeister]

KJ guns are indeed made of pot metal.

[Goodl2ussian]

who...cares? lol for a gun under 300$ (berettas at least) theyre fukin awesome and they take quite a beating from my experience.

[BBS]

the only issue i have with the KJ guns are the mags, they leak too easily. Crunch, my TM P226 doesn't have the slide lock issue you mentioned. maybe you have a defective one to start with. KSC glock do have very efficent gas consumption, the last KSC G19 i had, it fired 4.5 mags of BBs at room tem (21degrees) before running out; there was a 1 second interval between each shot. Im also impressed with the TM KJ and especially the KSC glock's durability.

[kilolima]

hmm after reading the other post that Crunchmeister linked im starting to think that the KJ will last long when using propane.

How has yours held up? What gas are you using?

[BBS]

KJ guns are pretty tough. Also we use propane in Canada, duster wont work well with KJ metal guns.

[kilolima]

So then durability wise would the KJ be better than the TM?

[Alexei]

What does anybody have to say about Western Arms guns, because I am too looking for a sidearm?