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I say go for the tavor, I mean its true what they say about the mag's they're annoying. Tavor is like holding a bigger P90. Submarineman was selling one, but I cant seem to find the price on that gun he's selling. Im guessing he already sold it fast. You will get more range with the Tavor than the UMP for sure, its really good for outdoor.
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