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WARFIGHTER · August 24th, 2009, 01:01

G&G M4 Carbine REC Version

And now the REC version.

MSRP: $260.00

Again, these are available through Warfighter Tactical.

Initial Impressions

The packaging, is cheap brittle plastic. Would have been a lot nicer if it is the same as their other models.

Included in the package are:
-AEG
-1400mah Split Battery (Small Tamiya Head)
-Wall Charger (Small Tamiya Head)
-Small-Large Tamiya Adapter
-Bag of BB's
-Unjamming Rod
-M4 Tool
-Metal Hi-Cap Magazine

No glasses were included with this one, not sure if that was just our luck, or they do not come with glasses. I was under the impression all came with glasses.

The gun is noticeably lighter than the classic version. It still feels reasonably weighted, not as 'toyish' as other AEG's I have felt which were not full metal. Feels very similar to the CA Sportline and the previous generation TM M4's.

As with the classic version, I was pleased to find no barrel wobble, no wobble/creaking in the rear stock when pushed/pulled/twisted/extended, minimal shifting/creaking in the split front stock when squeezed/twisted, and no give between the lower and upper or upper and top rail/carry handle. The outer barrel itself, being plastic, has a bit of flex if some force is applied however.

The lower receiver has the same symbol as the classic version, and is as far as I can tell the same material. It reads:

Complete AEG Series
MFG By Combat Machine
Made In Taiwan

Externals

As mentioned above, there is no wobble/creaking in the components, aside from the split front stock if squeezed and twisted.

I'll start with the parts that look to be exactly the same as the classic version so I don't need to talk about them here:

-Rear Sight
-Rear Stock
-Stock/Buffer Tube
-Pistol Grip
-Front Split Stock
-Fire Controls
-Trigger & Guard
-Charging Handle
-Sling Mounts

The rest of the parts, are composite. The only part that really looks plastic when examined closely is the outer barrel, it has a bit of gloss to it whereas the other parts needs to be physically gone over to see if they are composite or metal. But here is a list of the plastic/composite parts and the general feel of their quality:

-Upper Receiver (good quality)
-Lower Receiver (smoked polycarbonate)
-Carry Handle (good quality)
-Front Sight (good quality)
-Outer Barrel (lower quality)
-Flash Hider (lower quality)
-Forward Assist (good quality)

Unfortunately it shares the same charging handle issue as the classic version. Again not a huge thing but a disappointment after their other lines.

The barrel is threaded in std 14mm cc threads, but it is composite, not metal.

Function

Everything function wise has been the same as the classic version thus far. We have about 800 rds through this one though, and no issues or misfeeds to date. It has fed the same brands of mags as the classic version just fine. Battery installation is exactly the same.

The hop system, seems identical to the classic version. It has the 'sweet' spot.

Performance

Performance has been nearly identical to the classic version as well. The motor sounds a bit quieter than the classic version, but it may be the motor height. It also appears to shoot slower than the classic as well, but the chrono will confirm that.

-Responsiveness
The M4 Carbine REC has great trigger response. Just like the classic version; not quite as snappy as the MP5G5 we had reviewed, but better than the AK W/S, which was still above average.

-Rate Of Fire
Again, not quite as fast as the MP5G5, but faster than the AK W/S, which was again, above average to begin with. So very good ROF.

-Accuracy
Accuracy is excellent, tighter and more consistent than the MP5, not quite as good as the AK W/S. Certainly on par or better than most stock M4's from other brands.

-Range
Effective range with the hop set is about 75-100 ft depending on conditions, with .25's. We use .25 Bastards in all our testing. After 85ish feet, the bb's drop quite rapidly, but up until then, have a nice straight trajectory with little rise/fall in the path. Again not as good as the AK W/S, a bit better than the MP5G5. All in all, very skirmishable, and again, on par or better than most other stock M4's I have experienced.

-Speed
Didn't have the chrono at the field when we played today, but they are with Amos for internals review, so he will provide us with the speeds. I expect around 320-330 fps w/ .20's from what I saw.

Reliability
Well, 800rds through this one so far with no issues. Not a great test of reliability at this point, but I will update as time goes on.

Internals
See Amos's review below.

Summary

Well, per the internals review by Amos, the $40.00 or so difference between this and the classic/std version is definitely not worth the quality drop between the REC and classic version. The classic is the way to go.

August 24th, 2009, 01:01	#2
WARFIGHTER formerly Knyte Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manitoba	G&G M4 Carbine REC Version And now the REC version. MSRP: $260.00 Again, these are available through Warfighter Tactical. Initial Impressions The packaging, is cheap brittle plastic. Would have been a lot nicer if it is the same as their other models. Included in the package are: -AEG -1400mah Split Battery (Small Tamiya Head) -Wall Charger (Small Tamiya Head) -Small-Large Tamiya Adapter -Bag of BB's -Unjamming Rod -M4 Tool -Metal Hi-Cap Magazine No glasses were included with this one, not sure if that was just our luck, or they do not come with glasses. I was under the impression all came with glasses. The gun is noticeably lighter than the classic version. It still feels reasonably weighted, not as 'toyish' as other AEG's I have felt which were not full metal. Feels very similar to the CA Sportline and the previous generation TM M4's. As with the classic version, I was pleased to find no barrel wobble, no wobble/creaking in the rear stock when pushed/pulled/twisted/extended, minimal shifting/creaking in the split front stock when squeezed/twisted, and no give between the lower and upper or upper and top rail/carry handle. The outer barrel itself, being plastic, has a bit of flex if some force is applied however. The lower receiver has the same symbol as the classic version, and is as far as I can tell the same material. It reads: Complete AEG Series MFG By Combat Machine Made In Taiwan Externals As mentioned above, there is no wobble/creaking in the components, aside from the split front stock if squeezed and twisted. I'll start with the parts that look to be exactly the same as the classic version so I don't need to talk about them here: -Rear Sight -Rear Stock -Stock/Buffer Tube -Pistol Grip -Front Split Stock -Fire Controls -Trigger & Guard -Charging Handle -Sling Mounts The rest of the parts, are composite. The only part that really looks plastic when examined closely is the outer barrel, it has a bit of gloss to it whereas the other parts needs to be physically gone over to see if they are composite or metal. But here is a list of the plastic/composite parts and the general feel of their quality: -Upper Receiver (good quality) -Lower Receiver (smoked polycarbonate) -Carry Handle (good quality) -Front Sight (good quality) -Outer Barrel (lower quality) -Flash Hider (lower quality) -Forward Assist (good quality) Unfortunately it shares the same charging handle issue as the classic version. Again not a huge thing but a disappointment after their other lines. The barrel is threaded in std 14mm cc threads, but it is composite, not metal. Function Everything function wise has been the same as the classic version thus far. We have about 800 rds through this one though, and no issues or misfeeds to date. It has fed the same brands of mags as the classic version just fine. Battery installation is exactly the same. The hop system, seems identical to the classic version. It has the 'sweet' spot. Performance Performance has been nearly identical to the classic version as well. The motor sounds a bit quieter than the classic version, but it may be the motor height. It also appears to shoot slower than the classic as well, but the chrono will confirm that. -Responsiveness The M4 Carbine REC has great trigger response. Just like the classic version; not quite as snappy as the MP5G5 we had reviewed, but better than the AK W/S, which was still above average. -Rate Of Fire Again, not quite as fast as the MP5G5, but faster than the AK W/S, which was again, above average to begin with. So very good ROF. -Accuracy Accuracy is excellent, tighter and more consistent than the MP5, not quite as good as the AK W/S. Certainly on par or better than most stock M4's from other brands. -Range Effective range with the hop set is about 75-100 ft depending on conditions, with .25's. We use .25 Bastards in all our testing. After 85ish feet, the bb's drop quite rapidly, but up until then, have a nice straight trajectory with little rise/fall in the path. Again not as good as the AK W/S, a bit better than the MP5G5. All in all, very skirmishable, and again, on par or better than most other stock M4's I have experienced. -Speed Didn't have the chrono at the field when we played today, but they are with Amos for internals review, so he will provide us with the speeds. I expect around 320-330 fps w/ .20's from what I saw. Reliability Well, 800rds through this one so far with no issues. Not a great test of reliability at this point, but I will update as time goes on. Internals See Amos's review below. Summary Well, per the internals review by Amos, the $40.00 or so difference between this and the classic/std version is definitely not worth the quality drop between the REC and classic version. The classic is the way to go. __________________ Last edited by WARFIGHTER; September 5th, 2009 at 19:06..