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szetor October 11th, 2009 03:48

TSD SD700 - Slam Fire
 
guys do not buy this gun unless you plan to upgrade/replace every part.
this gun was shipped "new" from buyairsoft.ca

problems:

1. one nub from the hop-up arm was broken
2. hop-up adjustment bar broken
3. gun was double feeding + jamming
4. bipod pin snaps off
5. slam fires
6. ungodly amounts of grease
7. modification required for silencer adapter
8. non-standard 510mm inner barrel
9. air brake looks like it snapped off or was modified
10. crushed the orange tip during removal = voided warranty
11. Zero trigger piston does not fit Cylinder

parts to be replaced with:

Laylax Teflon Cylinder
Laylax Zero Trigger
Laylax Damper Cylinder Head
Laylax Spring Guide
Laylax 150SP Spring
Nine Ball Bucking
Replacement Hop-Up Chamber
King Arms Silencer Adapter

szetor October 11th, 2009 04:02

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3716/dsc00614iw.th.jpg

Trigger Mech fits onto receiver
Piston does not fit into the Cylinder
Piston head threads onto Cylinder

Ronan October 11th, 2009 05:21

You are AV and bought this POS on buyairsoft.... why?

szetor October 11th, 2009 16:16

Well I planned on replacing most of the parts anyways. Didn't think the gun would die that fast.

$500 TM + Upgrades or $220 TSD + Upgrades

FOX_111 October 11th, 2009 16:23

I hope your upgrades will fit in it. Cheap knock off are notorious for loose tolerance and ill shaped parts.

That review should be linked to every noobs that want to purshase a "sniper".

MoreToasties October 11th, 2009 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1081825)

That review should be linked to every noobs that want to purshase a "sniper".

+1.

sushicake October 12th, 2009 01:57

the slam firing sounds like you're sear has worn down or broke thus is not catching the spring.

Amos October 12th, 2009 02:35

Slam firing = you've broken sear #1 inside the trigger box

it looks like this: http://www.x-fire.org/vsr10/img_vsr/vsr_1stsear_2.jpg

Now it may not appear to be broken, but most of the time they bend EVER so slightly that renders them completely useless.

szetor October 15th, 2009 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1081825)
I hope your upgrades will fit in it. Cheap knock off are notorious for loose tolerance and ill shaped parts.

turns out the Zero trigger piston doesn't fit. doesn't make it past the threads..
sigh.. $100 for a laylax teflon cylinder.

All thats left of the TSD is the barrel and stock

Looks like I will have to sand down the receiver a bit aswell. A bit of a gap between the receiver and ZT.

Kos-Mos October 16th, 2009 19:00

...

Have you ever upgraded/fixed a BA rifle?

Do you understand how the VSR-10 and it's clones is working?

You can fix the slam fire by simply file the first sear (the one on the piston, Amos, that is sear #2) at a slight (barely, not even enough to see it) angle. The stock part of casted and most of the time the edge is rounded and will cause the piston to slip, especially since there is a lot of grease everywhere in clones.

If you bought the piston I think, it is normal that you have a hard time to fit it inside the cylinder. The ones I am talking about are made with a thin lip all around the piston head. The lip is so soft that it will grab on the treads and jam between the piston and cylinder.

There also is 3 different versions of VSR-10 cylinder sets.
Regular
Bore-up
Short stroke

Make sure you bought the right parts for the right version. The stock one should be a regular. By the issues you are describing, you might have bought a bore-up kit.

Double feed can be caused by a lot of other things than the little "U" shaped stop. You barrel might not be seated properly, you hop-up unit might be loose, your hop-up rubber can be set wrong or deformed.

The bipod mount on the TSD M700 is molded in the stock plastic. It is bound to break. You can buy a separate nub and replace it VERY easilly by drilling a hole for the screw and place it at the same place the stock one it. You can also simply install a 20mm rail at the same place, using the front barrel bolt and make a hole for the second one. G36C rails work good for that.

By the way, upgrading a BA rifle (or buying a cheap clone to do so) means that you will only have the barrel, receiver and stock left from the original rifle.

It is not like an AEG where you change a spring and 6 nylon bushings and you are done.

szetor October 16th, 2009 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos (Post 1085470)
...

If you bought the piston I think, it is normal that you have a hard time to fit it inside the cylinder. The ones I am talking about are made with a thin lip all around the piston head. The lip is so soft that it will grab on the treads and jam between the piston and cylinder.

There also is 3 different versions of VSR-10 cylinder sets.
Regular
Bore-up
Short stroke

Make sure you bought the right parts for the right version. The stock one should be a regular. By the issues you are describing, you might have bought a bore-up kit.

The bipod mount on the TSD M700 is molded in the stock plastic. It is bound to break. You can buy a separate nub and replace it VERY easilly by drilling a hole for the screw and place it at the same place the stock one it. You can also simply install a 20mm rail at the same place, using the front barrel bolt and make a hole for the second one. G36C rails work good for that.

hey Kos, the piston came with the Zero Trigger (90 degree vs 45 degree piston).

And thanks for the tips. definately plan to fix the bipod mount. Bipod ftw!

Kos-Mos October 16th, 2009 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by szetor (Post 1085501)
hey Kos, the piston came with the Zero Trigger (90 degree vs 45 degree piston).

And thanks for the tips. definately plan to fix the bipod mount. Bipod ftw!

Actually, I never use one... There is always something to lay on when on the field... bipods are for plinkers. lol

Donster October 16th, 2009 22:00

this review should be put into that one guys thread who, despite all of our advice, kept insisting on buying the damn clone.

tunabreath October 16th, 2009 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos (Post 1085555)
Actually, I never use one... There is always something to lay on when on the field... bipods are for plinkers. lol

That's what I keep telling him! Haha.
But seriously, it was considered, and the price-point is still well below the TM considering that he was planning on swapping all the major internal components anyways, even if he had bought the TM.


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