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Silverthorn June 9th, 2008 16:55

Do silencers really silence an AEG?
 
I was wondering if silencers that can be added to AEGs really do silence them?

I think I overheard (or read) somebody talking about two types of silencers. How to make sure you buy the right kind (one that Do silence the AEG)?

Thanks!

demco11 June 9th, 2008 17:01

Silencers are more for show, or too hide an extended inner barrel.

Silencers that have foam inside will help silence the noise a bit... but its stillm the motor/mechbox that are noisy.

You can buy a silent piston head with a sorbo pad to help the noise level down a bit...



But some silencers are great, the TM mk23 non blow back set has a silencer and the non-blow back and silencer together make that a deadly weapon.

FOX_111 June 9th, 2008 17:01

Depending on your AEG, yes they do.

They remove the air blast produced at the mussle. But the main source of sound of an AEG is it's gearbox, wich is not silenced by the silencer.

My P90, for example, is silenced almost completely when I put the silencer on. G36 can also be silenced pretty well. I find that armalite rifles are hardly silenced.

The MK23 NBB is the best example of a working silencer/pistol combo. Without the silencer, the pistol make a loud "smak" and when equiped with the silencer, it make almost no sound.

Ph0_Eat3r June 9th, 2008 17:06

can silencer also lower the fps sometimes?

FOX_111 June 9th, 2008 17:09

I never noticed that effect.

On upgraded gun, they sometime interfere with the BBs trajectory. I've seen a lot of silencer getting filled with BBs bouncing in them and destroying the inside. It has to do with the hopup making the BB rise to quickly in it's trajectory and hitting the inside walls of the tube. Not good.

Styrak June 9th, 2008 17:10

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Originally Posted by Ph0_Eat3r (Post 738620)
can silencer also lower the fps sometimes?

No

Drache June 9th, 2008 17:20

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 738628)
I never noticed that effect.

On upgraded gun, they sometime interfere with the BBs trajectory. I've seen a lot of silencer getting filled with BBs bouncing in them and destroying the inside. It has to do with the hopup making the BB rise to quickly in it's trajectory and hitting the inside walls of the tube. Not good.

Also if the foam inside the silencer becomes ragged and such, little pieces of foam hanging down can interfere with the BBs. This happened on my JG 416. Deadly accuracy without the silencer, but once the silencer was on, my BBs were everywhere.

Also on my JG 416 the silencer made a large difference. When I took the silencer off the gun due to the accuracy problem I thought my gun was broken due to how loud it seemed. Threw the silencer back on and it sounded "normal". :D

Crunchmeister June 9th, 2008 17:44

I have a foam-filled silencer for my MP5 and it muffles the muzzle sound significantly, but it does nothing for silencing the mechbox.

As for velocity, I believe that a silencer on a real gun does affect velocity (not 100% sure on that though), but it has little to no effect on an airsoft gun.

Bissa June 9th, 2008 17:53

a silencer ment to scilence wont affect velocity, but if you are just using it to increase the length of the barrel than it will make a difference.

Crunchmeister June 9th, 2008 19:32

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Originally Posted by bissa (Post 738665)
a silencer ment to scilence wont affect velocity, but if you are just using it to increase the length of the barrel than it will make a difference.

Of course, provided that it's used to conceal a longer inner barrel. And then, it will have little to no effect on muffling the muzzle sound of the gun, since the end of the barrel will be near the mouth of the silencer.

The Lettonian June 9th, 2008 19:41

Got a silencer on my G36. It helps a fair bit, actually. Muffles the report of the shot. Nothing too big, but enough to make determining location of shots more interesting.

Naglfar June 9th, 2008 20:04

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 738661)
I have a foam-filled silencer for my MP5 and it muffles the muzzle sound significantly, but it does nothing for silencing the mechbox.

As for velocity, I believe that a silencer on a real gun does affect velocity (not 100% sure on that though), but it has little to no effect on an airsoft gun.

When I had my Mk23 suppressor attached to my MP5 it worked really well. Can't normally hear the mechbox from far away anyways. It seemed to suppress the sounds that help someone pinpoint your location.
My M14 was ridiculously quiet without a suppressor, I wish I had a chance to try it out with one, when it's owner gets back from ROTP we'll give it a few test shots.

Jiggiwatt June 9th, 2008 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 738661)
I have a foam-filled silencer for my MP5 and it muffles the muzzle sound significantly, but it does nothing for silencing the mechbox.

As for velocity, I believe that a silencer on a real gun does affect velocity (not 100% sure on that though), but it has little to no effect on an airsoft gun.

I don't believe that there's a change in velocity on real steel. The only way I could see it making a difference would be if you were using subsonic ammunition which is designed to be quiet for suppressed weapons by eliminating the miniature sonic-boom.

FOX_111 June 9th, 2008 23:39

Some Real steel suppressor do modify the point of impact of bullets, wich require re-zeroing the rifle for the supressor. If they mess with bullets PoI, they must mess with fps.

The Lettonian June 9th, 2008 23:50

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Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 738937)
Some Real steel suppressor do modify the point of impact of bullets, wich require re-zeroing the rifle for the supressor. If they mess with bullets PoI, they must mess with fps.

Real steel suppressors work differently, though. They disperse the gases propelling the bullet forward, reducing the noise of the shot, but also the velocity of the bullet. Airsoft silencers don't have that problem. Or have I forgotten how silencers work? :s ... *googles*


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