R.S. Type 56 vs. G&G AK-47 W/S Full Metal
 

Okay, so after aventures and experiences with SRC's M16A4 with C8 recevier, is still an idea but now that a retailer is offering a Real Sword Type 56, it's hard to pass up. The SRC with C8 receiver seems so pale in comparsion to the real sword type 56, so I'm now looking into the type 56 and thinking i'll get the SRC next season the type 56 sooner. But a buddy of mine has brought to my attention that there is a G&G with full metal and wood, so I'm between a rock and a hard choice because I love the dedicaton of he real sword company has put into the type 56 to make it as close as possible to the real thing but it's also going to my first high quality band named gun and I want to make a wise choice. I know a ton of things about the RS type 56 & type 56-1 but not so much about the G&G AK-47. I would like to know any deciding factors someone would compile if they were in my spot, like any know faults with RS type 56's and the G&G. I understand that the G&G includes a battery but this is something I'm not sure about because batteries are something I'm willing to spend a little extra on so I found a 9.6v 5000mah battery for $50 and shipping so I'm looking for any advice on making an informed decision. Real Sword Price $639 G&G AK-47 $504 W/battery & charger https://www.buyairsoft.ca/rifles/ele...w-s-metal.html (please excuse bad spelling my laptop wireless is fried so I'm on a Iphone)

CAS version AK vs. the best AK variant on the market... go RS or go home! really tho type 56 is amazing!

Just be careful what battery you buy, the type 56 has very little battery space.

That isn't even a good comparison thats like comparing my 2008 Mercedes(RS) to a rusted up 1991 Honda civic(G&G) no fucking competition...

Well.. the G&G is wood and steel... it's just.... well.... I'd say a 2008 Civic. A TM AK would be a 1991 Civic. But yeah, the RS is still a 2008 Mercedes.

The finish and build of the RS is just awesome. Even the Systema PTW can't compare externally..

go realsword, best type 56 on the market :P

Dont waste your time with the G&G.

Ever.

Probably one of the most fustrating guns I have ever owned. If you're going to buy one, dont bother with that cansoft trash because you get what you get. there are little to no aftermarket parts readily available in canada without having to go out of your way to get them.

If you want to compared perhaps RS Type 56 is best compared against Inokatsu, LCT, or maybe LCT in externals...in internals Im not sure who match up.

Go with the Real Sword. There's a reason that most of Manitoba Ivan use them including myself.

The point is Real Sword Type 56 is not really AK 47. It doesn't from mother Russian.

Real sword
has no battery and charger but the g&g one yould wanna get new ones anyway
and the real sword is simply the best Ak on the market
the production value is simply outstanding
I would get one but Im not into ak's Im an mp5 guy

KND, if "Russian" is a necessity, then get an Inokatsu and pay 2-3x the price, but at least it will have Russian trademarks.

G&G won't have Russian trades.

I like that RS has the correct reciever size and the quality of the steel and finish is awesome. Inokatsu, in my opinion, looks better, but that's because they make their guns look "worn" and they do a good job of it. RS guns are made to look "new".

edit: I don't know much about LCT builds, so I can't comment on them, but they are Russian styles made of steel and priced just above RS.

depends on what ur style is...
seriously,for those RS sweeties,u have to treat them as real babies..cuz sometimes,maintainance does take a lwhile...

I'm not talking about trade mark but something that actually copy of AK 47 than Type 56 itself, it's like replica of another copy AK47. It's better than take replica of AK 47, right ? also why Inokatsu come in your mind, for the sake of my life. I never touch something like Inokatus, it's just over price in my opinion except I touch PTW like 2 or 3 time.

You don't need go far away. Why not consider CYMA AK 47 or TM AK 47 if you are willing to drop in metal body on it. The only reason that I buy CYMA AK variant is because they have way too many to choose from.

The G&G receivers stock tangs break. If you really want an AK47/M get a VFC, if you want a Chinese version of an AK (Type 56) get the Real Sword.

Damn, I bang my heard forgot about VFC. I almost love whatever VFC has been made so far especially their SCAR-L, HK 416 and PDW>

Do you know the difference between an AK-47 and a Type 56, other than the country who manufactured it?

As for CYMA and TM.... with plastic furniture and body screws.... yay....

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+the+dif...d+Type+56+%3F+

Newer version of CYMA AK variant are full metal and some are full steel as well and the price can't really beat them. I bought them mainly for shells anyway, Their internal has been replace since the day I got them.

So if you don't know what the difference is, why do you feel the need to comment on it?

This help?
The difference is that type 56's.....
1) always having a closed circle front sight hood
2) usually have folding bayonet, but underfolder stocked version do not have bayo present
3) no muzzle brake

Aswell as different body style, markings and sight marking

The "steel" bodies on the new CYMA guns don't even begin to compare to the RS steel, nor does the quality of wood or internals. The "steel" CYMA guns aren't lacking in pot metal parts.

And it uses TM's design, which means an extended receiver to fit the gearbox.

The CYMA isn't a copy of an AK47, it's a copy of another airsoft gun. At least the Type 56 RS copied was made with Russian blueprints, unlike the airsoft guns CYMA copied.

This guy is looking at CYMA guns. He obviously doesn't care about realism down to the markings and front sight loop.

CYMA/TM based guns aren't accurate on body size anyway, so you can't say they have a plus on RS in that sense.

I think the jury is unanamous here, if you want a badass ak variant then go with the type 56. I have one and its better than 5 G&G's

Was there really a need for a triple post?

I've got one and a full steel KWA M11.

Haven't seen either yet in person, but I'm really looking forward to seeing which is the more badass of the two.

edit: triple posts save me editing time.
BTW what happened to post counts?

Really ? If I don't know then how can I comment.

The only invisible between Type 56 and AK 47 is that AK 56 is has fulll enclosed hooded front sight and AK47 has partially enclosed front sight. The Type 56 from Real Sword has folding bayonet where as AK 47 bayonet can be detached. I think, that's all beside the date of their manufacture and version of Type 56 below 1960 was using milled receiver to low down the cost of production, basically mainly market to Asian but after 1960 they are using stamped steel receiver like newer AKM variant from Russian.

By the way, there is currently no clear source that Real Sword Type 56 is made from Real Steel Receiver or whatever as they advertise beside only clearly state from Manufacture.

I'm not here talking about quality of Real Sword Type 56, I used to have 2 of them or probably get another one. I knew their sh*t from head to bottom. From what I mean it is not exactly replica of AK 47 made by Russian to be precise. That's all.

I'd rather have the wrong front sight loop than have a gun with lower quality materials and the wrong type of finish all over the gun. At least a sight you can swap out...

good for you and got for it. I rather have both of them. :rolleyes:

Which is why I mentioned Inokatsu.

peace man, RS 56 are not made of real type 56 parts, but they use the same material and same produce technique, both are millitary grade steel, this is also something that LCT/INOKATSU can not compare with. As for the background of RS company, I believe they have deep connection with the Norinco Company, for they are using real millitary supply and produce line to make airsoft gun.

tip: so many Chinese airsoft manufactory were shut down and siezed in China during their national day last year, RS company survived. ask why? coz they are owned by the Chinese governmant.

Or because they have guanxi, or because they have legal documentation (export only). Or because they're located in Hong Kong, where airsoft is legal. (I don't know if their manufacturing is in Hong Kong, though.)

I understand that but don't they like assemble Real Sword Type 56 in Taiwan and import parts from China ?

It's a Hong Kong company.

no, RS is licenced by the PRC government, they only produce Chinese weapon, there no way they produce their airsoft guns in TAIWAN. plus, how can those Tiwanese inport millitary supply from China mainland to their island? they are still at war.

Ya, its a hongkong comapny, but their produce line is in China mainland. they only set their office and register location in hongkong.

I don't think it matters where the company is located.. I'm sure the answer he is obvious. G&G is ok, not bad, but nothing special. The Real Sword isn't even a fair comparison to G&G. Its like asking do you want a chocolate covered shit (G&G) or a giant chocolate cake? (Real Sword).

i got reply's i thought i was going to get, and i thank you, now i have just one question about the wiring in the RS Type 56, i hear that the RS type 56 has it wired so you can put in both a stick battery and a large type battery in at the same time, and I've seen 2.4v battery for operating a 9.6v and a 2.4v at the same time, what kind of performance difference would it make? and BTW i like both the AK-47 and Type 56 the same so its not about the external gun just the properties of performance.

ok, the type 56 only has the ability to run 2 batteries, the 56-1 or 56-2 do not, I'm sure you already knew that though :P

The front battery under the upper receiver is a stick and believe me its a tight fit into the gas tube A 9.6 G&P 2200mAH fits. the stock would require a mod to put anything other than the 2.4 battery. the performance difference is a longer lasting AEG, haven't really heard much about a higher ROF or anything like that.

There are a few issue with Real sword type 56 but probably various from version of it made.

First issue, people complaint about the nozzle is a big longer than regular Ak nozzle so it some how miss feed the BBs when go to full auto.

Second issue, the accuracy problem. The stock hop up rubber is being a bit harder so the BBs won't spin enough to fly further. It may drop around 75 to 85 feet.

Those two common problem can be fit by regular Ak nozzle and Guarder clear hop up rubber beside than that , this gun can take a beat up as hell.

As for battery, I never recommend anything than 9.6 V for AEG. 8.4 is just perfect, very realistic ROF but 9.6 V is not that bad.

The stock on Type 56 need to modify to fit small 8.4 V which I'm not recommend, just use a stick type unless you plan to use mosfet. 9.6 V Intellect fit fine in there.

I know that only the Type 56-1 and 56-2 can store a battery :P but I'm getting conflicting reports about how large of a battery can be inserted into the upper receiver, in Cruchmeister's review here: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...highlight=Type he says that you could fit a very large battery in the gas tube (Stick Type in upper receiver)

"I popped the upper receiver cover to inspect the inside and prepare for battery installation. I immediately noticed the neat and tidy internal construction in terms of wiring. The blade-style automotove fuse is nicely tucked away. The wiring is run through guides so that it doesn't go all over the place. You can tell that they paid good attention to detail.The battery installed easily, sliding into the upper gas tube, and left plenty of space. You could easily fit a 9.6V or 10.8V battery without a problem. As a matter of fact, you could easily add aother 4-5 cells to the battery and still have plenty of room left over. It would more than likely fry something, but physically, there is nothing preventing a veyr large stick battery from being installed. In the picture below, the battery is only slightly inserted into the gas tube, but believe me, it goes in COMPLETELY if you want it to. This gun was well thought-out in the design stages."

like said, I have a G&P 9.6 2200mAH and it fits with no extra space. If that helps. it is a very long stick type battery.

so now i just have to decide, either the Type 56-1 or just Type 56.....But thanks for all the info. :)

no problem! I'd recommend the 56, but I like the solid stock old school feeling.

I'd go with the 56-1 if you do a good amount of indoor games if you don't fuck it and go with the full stock type 56

RS type 56 is much much better.

Buyairsoft.ca sells full metal now?
Damn, it would be nice for airsoft to legally be used by responsible people. But yesterday, I saw some kids, playing airsoft with crappy crossman guns on a playground that is usually populated with no goggles.

Hopefully one of them gets their eye shot out but then the soccer moms will probably want them banned....

it seems that bit by bit every site is getting full metal guns

I'm going to bump this thread with confirmation that RS AKs are made in mainland China.

http://www.popularairsoft.com/puttin...alism%E2%80%A6

This, combined with the fit, finishing, materials, packaging, and finish of this gun, is confirmation enough for me that there is definitely Norinco involvement in the manufacturing of these guns.

Nothing to be confused about here. I have a 9.6V Intellect stick battery, and it can be inserted completely into the gas tube. You could very easily install a 10.8 or 12V as well with room to spare for more cells.

Personally, I would recommend a custom stick battery from cheapbatterypacks.com built using 2000 mAh 4/5A cells. That would turn this gun into a monster.

The space in the stock is limited. You would have to get a custom pack, and I thing 9.6V with 4/5A cells would be as big as you could get it..

If you got Realsword, just don't buy the damn under folding stock one. On our team, two people have had them break!

Where'd they break?

I've never heard of the stocks breaking.

edit: I've heard of at least one wood stock developing a crack with minor use, and some wobble on the underfolder (minor and mods can improve it), but I haven't heard of any broken underfolder stocks.

I'm sorry, but I just have to ask. Mods, I appologize if it's too off topic.

What is this huge difference between Buyairsoft selling to kids with confirmation from parents and a place like Mach1 selling to an adult so he can give it to his kid? It's like M-Rated games or something; If you need to be over 18, the parent will just buy it anyways as long as they approve of the kid having it. Maybe i'm just ignorant of the screening process at a place like Mach1, but there doesn't seem to be a difference between the two except one is more open about the fact kids will be able to use them.

Also, to TS, I think the extra money is well worth it to get the Realsword. If it was like 850-900 compared to the 500, i'd say go G&G, but it's really not that much. But this is a really old thread and you've probably already purchased something so whatever :p

I don't know how Mach1 screens, but retailers that choose to use the ASC AV are safer in that respect, since ASC has a policy of not allowing parents to be AV'd to buy for their kids. Not all AVers follow that policy, but for the most part it keeps the underage out.

only one broke that i can recall boot and that was after it got fallen on. not a fault of the RS

l do plan on buying the full stock type 56 but I've never heard of their stocks breaking or cracking, and by the sounds of it the wood of these could almost compare you lee-enfield qualitiy wood.

Two of our guys (boot's guys are the same guys lol) have fallen on the folding stock ones and sheared the screw on the inside, it's an easy fix if you keep track of all the parts... which.. they probably did not :(

It's hard teching for a team that actually uses their toys like they should be!