I tried a few different ideas before I built this and read some threads by others who had tried it. The issue with firing more than 1 bb from a single barrel is if its all on one cycle then theres the very real possibility its gonna jam all the time. A 3-5 rnd burst might work but it gets complicated and expensive at that point buying new gearsets and delayers etc.

The inner dimensions of the 12 gauge sized outer barrel is enough to accommodate the tri-shot system but a whole new gearbox would have to be built shell up.

A 3-5 BBs system for Saiga you say ? Hummm... Let me get back to my drawing board tonight and I shall make an hop up unit and barrel for that. >:)

Why not just re-jig a Maruzen M1100 system to fit inside an AK receiver? The system's a bit underpowered, but if you're mechanically inclinded enough to do the shoehorning, then you should be able to fix the bugs in the system to be a high performance semi auto airsoft shotgun.

(I tried it once, but gave up cause I wasn't mechanically inclinded enough to beef up the Maruzen semi auto system, plus the fps on those things SUCK as stock. Also, you'd have to develop a feed system since the loading tube would be elminated and Saiga's use a mag)

I'm on the drawing board right now with using the Walter sg3000 multi shot gas shotgun as internals and develope a magazine fed system and then just build internals around it. Such as AA-12. I have a guy in the states (Sean is his name) of the rpf.com who sells replica moulds of the shotgun Reese used in predators. Just my idea.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...13010426_n.jpg

Is very advanced type 56
Beamshot night stalker Class 1 Laser
Surefire 9P with IR filter.

Type 56 can into IR light sabre battles.

Took some decent pics of the collection:

Gas blowback SVD with real steel furniture, scope, sling, and cheek rest. NPAS installed.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps0c7f4351.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps2dd5856e.jpg

GHK gas AKM. Real Sling, Izhmash buttstock, pistol grip, and upper handguard.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...psd045220f.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps58778efb.jpg

LCT AKS-74N. Real Izshmash handguards, magazine, sling, and real flash hider and cleaning rod.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps93202e46.jpg

WE AKS-74UN. Real selector switch and sling. Pictured with real bakelite mag.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps4fa58a0a.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...pse7f3a9ff.jpg

Forgot to take equally good pics of this GHK AKMS gas blowback. On the ares launcher it shows that as bad as Asian english is, Asian Russian is even worse. The "made in russia" is complete nonsense.

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps9f87bd82.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...psba564053.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps36442bb2.jpg

SPEPANO V ROSSNN

It's supposed to say "Sdelano v Rossii"

Nice SVD, Ithink you've got one of the best looking AK collections I've seen on ASC.

I'm assuming the SVD is a WE? I haven't heard of an NPAS out for the AIM SVD yet.

How does it shoot? I've read the NPAS isn't very consistent and reduces accuracy. I'm interested in a SVD for a DMR loadout (sub 400fps) somewhere down the line (running before walking again..) but the AIM SVD shoots way too hot and the WE apparently has a ton of issues?

Thank-you! AKs are definitely my latest passion.

The NPAS installed is this one.

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/ra-tech-n...l#.UwyEsvldVkA

It is not the traditional whole-bolt carrier system and I hear it works very well but is harder to adjust on the fly since it requires complete dissassembly. I've also got steel internals installed in the WE SVD. I can't tell you how well it works until my chrono arrives from Toronto Airsoft.

About time I contribute.

Here's my baby.

http://i62.tinypic.com/ayslmp.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/59vmzp.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fe1vJQa.jpg

Something about the RA-Tech hand guard color bothered me so I refinished it with red mahogany and polyurethane mixed with Rit-Dye. I was impatient and reassembled it before I was done. I should have done four or five more coats of poly to give a deeper red candy effect. The color is a bit darker than it appears on camera.

http://i.imgur.com/uuoKBRX.jpg


Here is the updated parts list:

Hephaestus steel trigger set
FG high speed buffer
FG low flow system
RA-Tech wood handguard
RS bakelite grip
Maple Leaf 75 degree Hop-Up Rubber

The hammer broke so I bought a reinforced one. The trigger box cracked, so I cut a steel plate and reinforced that. I finally get it working again and the first day I use it the hammer spring snaps... So this ones out of action again. :(

But at least it looks good

Anastasia is READY FOR BATTLE! DAVAI!

http://i.imgur.com/Qu0z5Hol.jpg

Figured this was the best place to ask this, but I normally get my AK related optics stuff from Kalinka Optics. However, it seems like they no longer ship to Canada.

Im looking for this:
http://kalinkaoptics.com/bp-02-unive...-centered.html

Anyone know where else I can get it from? Or something similar?

Start making Russian friends and you'll no longer need to worry about who will ship what to where :p

I've been eying Zenit stuff for a bit now, very tempted.

I have the Asura repro zenit rail on my AK-74M and we have 3 of the Core repros of the PKM rail on the teams PKMs. They're nice...

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/...29933730_n.jpg

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Pic of my Ay as Val

Hooray! Silent enemy remover.
King Arms VSS

http://www.dontstealmydomain.com/con...ss/VSSLEFT.JPG
http://www.dontstealmydomain.com/con...s/VSSRIGHT.JPG
http://www.dontstealmydomain.com/con...s/VSSSCOPE.JPG

We expect a review, Gish :D

Oh my god YES!

that's one sexy ass gun

thats awesome man!

cant wait to see it at Georgian Spring

I cant wait to try and swap it out for a paper cut out of one as a distraction, while I try to make off with it into the bushes for some sweet fondling at georgian spring. That is soo nice.

Zenitco ak103 ( GHK co2)

All real Zenitco and real SRS and other stuff...

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ALL OF MY WANT!

move to alberta and play with us...seriously

New acquisition of an LCT AKMSU (thanks again, Pusangani!) joins the LCT AK74 that i picked up last summer.

Hope to get lots of use out of them this summer.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j...28HDR%2529.jpg

LCT's, and LCT's, and LCT's, and LCT's. Weathered and ready for the ball.

I have three others, though two of them are getting some R-hops done to them currently. And one is on order right now through my local retailer, probably stuck somewhere in Hong Kong.

Loving that AIMS, I think that's going to be my next gun!

NP bud, glad she went to a good home!

AK-74u
 

Just waiting on my T1 sight with low mount.

That's going to make a mighty sexy gun when you get your T1.

Bravo sir.

T1 and TP1, waiting for GP25

For ak, pls change a mag! its horrible to see mag 7.62 in AK74SU :(

Haha thanks. The guy I picked up the ak74u from sent those mags. I need to get the bakelite mags. I just put the rail on yesterday. I don't think I will be putting the GP25 on it. Thanks for the feedback.

Very nice weathering job! Are those the authentic wood hand guards on your WE-AKSU and not a airsoft copy?

Also what selector switch is that, an airsoft version or the real selector switch?

Pic of my Dboy AK74-U !

7.62 with AK74SU (5.45)...

He needs to change the name to a bulgarian AKSU Krinkov they are 7.62 chambered

Nice - Did that wood handguard come with the gun or did you replace it?

It came with the gun !

All stock from LCT Airsoft actually. While not as real as Real Sword and (arguably) E&L, they certainly get the job done, and the quality on the steel externals and wooden hand guards is downright beautiful. Weather it down and you have something that could be used on a movie set.

interesting....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KToE4m48fvQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vTDoFk-lLU

Torture test so you don't have to do it at home.

Think I'm in love with the gun in the first video!

So.........who is selling these E&L's?

NO.Don't just post one pic.That is rude.
You need to post more pics of this.

No one in Canada yet... seems like people I know that thought about bringing them in had cold feet.

Also something about the mechbox being not as good as LCT.

I'd be interested in swapping the box. The externals are what you'd be after on that gun.

There are reviews on RA that show the minor benefits over LCTs are not worth the other shitty external parts they come with

I believe JS Airsoft is stocking E&L AEGs at the moment.

But are they less expensive than LCT or same price?

Guess if they were half the price of LCT it would be worth it, but I have no idea of the current list price

E&L is more expensive.

Varies model to model

To be honest, how much better in construction can E&L REALLY be compared to an LCT? I don't mean to sound like an LCT fanboy or something... but they are already as fully steel as you can pretty much get haha. I can't really see how E&L's construction is more revolutionary....

The only gripes that I've heard with LCT (which is the reason people started to buy E&L over the LCT) is the selector grouping is correct on the E&L, as well as accurate markings on the lower receiver (near the handguard on the left side). It has been said to be made with the same material as they use with the real AK47/74's, reason being is that E&L was rumoured to be a real firearms manufacture (still?).

Other things that people have said, better wood finishing, better steel construction (arguably), a semi magwell (can't confirm however), a flash mag, and apparently better gearbox which can be used with M130 spring without any problems. Another fun fact as well, they get a metal hop-up unit. This info was gathered from a variety of sources, videos, and word of mouth from other forums, all of which still don't really make buying an E&L justified in my opinion (less you're a hardcore impressionist) that cared about minor cosmetic issues.

I still buy LCT's over E&L as I do like using their gearboxes, and find their internal work good enough for me. Can't complain about a double o-ringed cylinder head, steel gears which have been shimmed decently, o ringed air nozzle, an aluminum piston head with a full steel teeth rack piston backing it up--none of these are top of the line, but for someone who just likes to play, good enough for me. E&L might do it better as some youtube videos might say, but in BC, LCT's are easier to source. Well, for me anyway.

The steel on the LCT's work well for me, the wood finishing is decent (I always tend to age it, so it doesn't matter to me) and it's easy to take down for me as I'm not a great tech by any stretch of the imagination. If you really are anal about markings and realism, E&L I suppose it the way to go, but for a good AK that does everything you need it to do, LCT's are just as good as what E&L offer, and what's more, LCT offers a variety of AK's as well as other guns (M4's, M60's, and VAL's).

If anything between the two companies, they both do the same thing. I found that E&L, and LCT's are either more expensive or cheaper than the other, depending on where you go. I would choose LCT because I'm familiar with their work, but if someone had a choice between the two, go with the one that's cheaper for you :P

So before I start, full disclosure: I work at JS Airsoft.

We've brought in a couple of E&L AKs to check out. The customer that bought the AKM actually had nothing but great things to say about it, he was very happy with the solid construction and performance out of the box. According to him, it's on par if not better than Real Sword.

Pricing is actually pretty similar to the LCT lineup. To be honest it would be unrealistic to expect E&L to be half of the price as LCT.

Thanks for the shout out Stealth!

If you guys have any questions about E&L please let me know, I'll try my best to answer them.

Would you guys be willing to do a break down review on them?

1. Is front sight adjustable?
2. Will you guys bring in AKS74 , AK74M, AkS74u (when e&l releases)?

I thought E&L might be trying to under cut LCT.

I would like to know the differences between each manufacturer, external and internal.
Even over at RA I don't see a great write up yet.

The parts section of the E&L website looks half decent, looks like some older systema silent piston head tech as well ( I still have one on those running). The wiring looks substantial and is that a FET I already see wired into the harness?
I wonder what the seal is like with the stock hopup unit and what bucking are they using?

but this has my interest: http://www.jsairsoft.com/e-l-ak104-pmc-c-aeg.html

Edit: Internal blow up E&L ak preview - YouTube

Question for those of you whole painted there various parts plum.
What paint do you use??

Some people use black ryte dye. Result depend on how long you leave it in the water.

At the moment, no. We're not really comfortable with taking apart an AEG then sell it to a customer. There has been quiet a few reviews and videos online though, including a 40min review I found:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgtyyDZVDnw
http://blog.airsoftcommunity.de/el-a...-what-the-buzz

Hope that helps!

1. Not 100% sure. It looks like it's adjustable but it doesn't come with an adjustment tool, I'm going to request for confirmation on this.

2. We will most likely bring in a few different variants when if we decide to bring them in, so far we haven't decided yet.

I believe that E&L is trying to go the Real Sword route, but with Russian style AKs instead of the Chinese Type 56. Check out the links above for a more detailed breakdown. The FPS seems to be pretty consistent so I think it's safe to assume it has a pretty good air seal out of the box.

E&L's full company name is Emei Landarms
A subcontractor called Emei makes the realsteel Norinco Type 97
Norinco used to make Russian style AKs for Polytech Legends lineup.
E&L's claim to making real firearms might be legit.

Interesting, how would I go about this?
Whip the dye up in a tub then dunk the parts?

Thanks for sharing that information, I was not aware of that!

I do know that Land Arms refers to the airsoft parts manufacturer from a long time ago. I personally am not familiar with that brand, can anybody chime in?

Didn't Landarms used to make AK parts? Like front ends, front sight posts, etc? I vaguely remember seeing stuff on ebb

Yup, Landarms made AK parts, but I'm not sure about complete front ends. They used to make full steel (awesomely built) AK-104 front ends and and AK-74 gas blocks (I believe). They also made SAMSON rails for AK models like the RWL you see now only better.

Haven't seen any of their parts for a while now though and they were really only TM compatible, which was a bit of a drag cause they didn't fit King Arms easily. The big issue was the faux gastube fitting into the LandArms parts.

Contruction was amazing quality though and they came factory blued.

Did a quick paintjob on one of my aks

based off of this

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps7dd24fd3.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...psd9acb66f.jpg

Excellent! Very attractive and likely very effective

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5572/...c6df585f_c.jpg
(LCT RPKS74M, thanks to GBBR)

RPK just got a facelift. Gotta get some wood furniture for it though.

Welcome to the club!


GET THAT DRUM MAG OFF THAT GUN!

/lol

Pff, I'll use my drums as I please! I have two for a reason~

That aside, I am looking to get some proper midcaps for it.

Looking good, Tyler!

I must admit I do like the look of the big 75 round magazine on some RPKs. Kind of a "so strang looking it's cool" kind thing. I find the look of the drum great too though!

I wish someone made the 45 round 5.45 molot mags in airsoft form :/

Which ones are those? I know there are RPK 'bakelite' midcaps out there.

Omfg me too! PLEASE!

Anyone know what spec of buffer tube LCT uses on there ak's?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img38/7494/imagepeu.jpg

These are the much sought-after black Molot magazines.

Those are actually fairly easy to source and convert, but it has to be done overseas unless it's pinned. I got one of the guys I know in Russia to convert 12 of them and send them here for a buddy of mine who, sadly, only chairsofts -__-

you could probably make some decent money selling converted mags on RA

I bought some bakelites that were converted with VFC internals

but the guts are old and itred and the conversion is barely above a hack job\

Well, if he won't be using them for actual gaming... I'll take'em off his hands :wink:

Some more RPK porn.


https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5032/...9cb1c75e_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2927/...8c94aeb9_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2906/...56d88cc5_c.jpg

Had to stop myself from swiping that RPK today lol

Sorry for the late reply, my contact just got back to me about this. The E&L front sight IS adjustable. They have also designed an adjustment tool which should be released soon.

PS. those RPKs is starting to make me want a gas blowback version. What's the best way to build one, GHK AK with a LCT kit?

Just for info, it is RPKM and DO NOT RPKS74M

I got 3 LCT Vals in today...pics later ;)

I think it was RPK74M

with incorrect/aftermarket drum magazine

Ones mine, right? :)

that site will help you :)

http://world.guns.ru/index-e.html

No shit. What Dmitry said. He just missed 74. RPKS74M has wooden stock.

Just for people's clarification

RPKS-74:
The RPKS-74 is the paratrooper model of the RPK-74, equipped with a wooden folding stock from the RPKS.

RPK-74M:
An updated variant known as the RPK-74M was developed that includes a true black polymer, rather than the previously used plum colored stock sets. The lower hand guard, gas tube cover, pistol grip, and updated side-folding stock that has the cut out for the side rail and utilizes a small button to fold the stock. These also come standard with a side rail for mounting optics. Updated magazines were produced by Molot with horizontal ribs going up the sides of the magazines. An export variant chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO was also introduced, designated the RPK-201. Also for export is the RPKM chambered in 7.62x39mm; it uses the same polymer furniture as the RPK-74M variant.

Anyone able to shed any light on this?
I can't find the info anywhere.

I unfortunately do not know, however I can tell you, if you can see the back of the buffer tube, flat means milspec, and slanted means commercial.

I would be surprised if they used a commercial buffer style.

AKMS (CYMA CM-048S), i have that blaster since 2009

AKMS (CYMA)
GP 25 (Kalash)
AKM (MAG)
http://cs7003.vk.me/c613523/v6135230...P67lj-qJ5U.jpg
http://cs7003.vk.me/c613523/v6135230...7aSMWNrhMA.jpg
http://cs7003.vk.me/c613523/v6135230...dOU5WNlTP8.jpg
http://cs7003.vk.me/c613523/v6135230...leC9g-gxNE.jpg

Nice setup! How are the CYMA underfolders?

Do you mean gearbox ?

Overall build quality

strong, heavy and real steel (DO NOT SILIUM, verified by magnetic), real wood. He has 6 years old with standard gearbox (but you should clean once a year and adjusted shimming), nice gearbox (metal guide resort, etc..)
i am very happy to have it!

WIP.

Sorry Strelok.

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I'll leave this here, for some reason I really want a WE AK now :)
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Guess I now know why you're apologizing.

Hahaha. Hope it serves you well either way dude.

Wow lol that's a barrel and a half right there! Is that just a normal rpk barrel?

Mon dieux... C'est quoi ? Skirmish gun ?

It's just a normal RPK with some 'merica added. Drum mags are en route.

It runs off purist tears instead of batteries.