Yea, definitely get some Midcaps :)

Sigh... If you would to see my guns, you would change your mind. The only stock parts on my kraken (soon to be) are: Outer barrel, sights, upper reciever, stock, handgrip, hup up, triger guard assembly and gearbox shell.

id rather save up for a g&g. seriously. a kraken costs about $160. and a G&G costs about $380. shure, its twice as much, but id reather not get a kraken and just go with a G&G. and the things ive hearde about the krakens. i had one for a while, but sold it to my friend. cuz i didn't want it breaking down on me. the thing i heard was somehting about 50% of krakens failing withing the first 2000rounds.

They have improved on all of their products in their new versions. The older ones came with nylon bushings, and they have now put metal ones stock in them. Many people in my town have aftermath products, stock, and they have been working great, except for the crap battery.

He's using his as a project gun, why pay damn near 400$ when the only thing your keeping stock is the externals.

400$ base gun + 400$ worth of upgrades= perfectly good left over internals and a good gun.

160$ base gun + 400$ worth of upgrades= shitty leftover internals, a good gun, and 240$ still in your pocket.

now you could probly sell those internals left over from the 400$ gun but not for 260$

But then your gun has crappy externals. Whereas if you save up a bit you have better externals on it. And then in the time being (depending how long it takes you to upgrade), you can still use the thing and have it perform well and not have to worry about it breaking down on you (at least not as much as with a kraken..).

Better quality gun to start with means ease of mind, easier upgrading (since upgrades mesh better with better quality guns, since their tolerances are better).

Quite true, but if your on a budget, a savings of 200$ or more looks pretty good.

anyways back on topic were starting to derail the thread.

If you want good externals, count G&G out as well. You're looking at Classic Army at least.

I don't know about that, my Classic army M15 mechbox packed it in after only 5000 rounds, where as my JG M4 has gone 20,000 rounds and is only now having an electrical firing problem.

hes talking externals

I just ordered a x47 rail kit and a metal body. My externals and internals will be beautiful now.

Krakens are fine...but I agree with kalnaren. The second I got my Full metal CA M4...I don't think I could own a plastic gun again.

i've gotten atleast 30k shots from my Kraken with only external upgrades and it still shoots 360 with .2's and 325 with .28's so i think its an alright starter gun but im going for a G&G now Krakens are boring after 3 years.

30k? and only external upgrades? You got lucky...

I helped a friend who bought a Kraken replace every single internal piece (excluding shell but including hopup) So I played with the stock internals for while and just after 3 or 4 mid caps the nozzle cracked, piston head exploded and the piston was really badly stripped.

Fixed.