Its a JG, rebranded by Cybergun/Panther arms-

You really dont need a scope man-maybe a red dot or a reflex, but not really

And I just totally love reflex sights. but I want something that takes skill to use and aim (well, some skill) instead of point, shoot, hold tigger.

I hate to tell you this, but your constant posting of every thought that comes in your head, is quite annoying, there is also an "edit" function.

This comment doesnt really make all that much sense

Ok sorry, it's just that I might as well bring it up now instead of later. I guess this thread can kind of die off now, because now it is just my desicion on which gun to get. Unless someone wants to buy one for me ;) Birthday coming up! lol

But I am hoping that JG will stay that low of a price, because it is friggin almost half the price of everywhere else (minus the classifieds)

Does anybody know if their prices are normally that low, or if it is just some clearance, or a broken gun?

And for me posting every 10 seconds, I guess I'm just... peppy. lol.

OH! And I like pineapples ;)

the gun is on sale man-269 at other canadan stores

I know i emailed them - at the end of September it is back to $279.99

the only thing I am concerned about is that I have learned that rebranded DPMS Jing Gong's are of lower quality, because they were made when Jing Gong was still growing. I'm kind of leary of how sturdy these are now.... whould you have any idea? what makes it worse than new JG's

The DPMS stuff is old JG, JG has since revamped everything and is producing better guns.

I would avoid DPMS like the plague.

but what is so bad about their old stuff? quality control? crap internals?

Quality control, AWFUL internals, poor tolerances, very weak metal.... I honestly can't think of one GOOD reason to get one over a G&G or one of the other half-breed cheap clear guns.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...highlight=Zeta

The link above has pics of the internals of the aforementioned Panther Arms / Cybergun/ JG rebrand M4A1.

because it is $130 less? and thanks

Nope more crude but hey it's an AK what do you expect :D

Kraken = $160

DMPS rebranded JG M4A1 = $170

Is DPMS worth buying over aftermath if it is a rebranded JG?

If you plan on gaming it, I'd say only if you're confident enough to upgrade it and fix what every problems that will more than likely arise.