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Crunchmeister October 9th, 2009 17:38

Yes. That's a rebranded JG. Several guys I play with have the non-clear version. It's not a JG clone. It IS a JG.

Amos October 9th, 2009 17:48

Problem with that is it is OLD JG.

All the internal plastic parts are made out of a brittle hard plastic, the piston head uses a retarded 3 piece design, the cylinder head is majorly prone to failure and the gears have an insanely high white metal / lead content.

Basing this on GEARBOX INTERNALS ONLY I would recommend the Kraken.

Marosu October 9th, 2009 18:02

Basing this on what you say, this m4 and a velocity arms custom m4 would be kinda the same price since the old JG gearbox is not that good. A complete gearbox would make the price the same (or even more considering external upgrades like r.i.s), no?

Crunchmeister October 9th, 2009 18:02

I've been inside a few of them, and they were standard JG parts. Maybe the clear ones are of a different grade. I am basing what I say on the non-clear version, which as far as I can tell, is identical to any other JG I've worked on.

Amos October 9th, 2009 18:05

Nah it didn't seem standard to me...

I just based a build off of a JG AK beta.. and the parts inside that thing were miles ahead of the parts inside that damn DPMS gun... But the DPMS gun I worked on was all black aswell..

Marosu October 9th, 2009 18:15

So buying one would be like picking a card? Maybe I'll get the good one, or not?

Amos October 9th, 2009 18:17

I'd got with one of the VA JG's.. They use the newer style gearbox, alot of the parts have been improved.

Marosu October 9th, 2009 18:23

Then again (sadly) money is missing...

So overall, m4 or ak?

Amos October 9th, 2009 18:28

When you're dealing with low end stuff, I'd say AK.

But when you're dealing with REAL airsoft, Personal preference.

Marosu October 9th, 2009 18:29

Thank you guys!

Crunchmeister October 9th, 2009 18:39

Yeah, there seems to be some uncertainty about that particular model. So perhaps the Kraken is the better option. Although I'd go for one of those VA models over those 2 choices.

Marosu October 9th, 2009 18:40

Anybody with good jugement would go for VA models ;) thank you again

Con Murder October 10th, 2009 04:24

DPMS is a real steel brand name and so many airsoft cloners make a model of it. VA may be better than G&G (or so popular opinion set them in my eyes) but the kraken is the AK variant that is at that price range. For me airsoft is more about the feel and so that is the primary thing for a buyer to do is hold some guns.

kalnaren October 10th, 2009 08:28

When your budget is so low, you're basically picking between a gun that might be crap and fail, and another gun that might be crap and fail.

In airsoft you get what you pay for. Even if you could get $350 up, you'd get a guaranteed much higher quality gun... Ie, one that you had a pretty good chance wasn't going to break within the first 1,000 rounds.

Marosu October 10th, 2009 09:06

I alredy know what i'll do. I won't buy a gun now, keep my 200$ Get a better job, get av'ed. Buy a nice AEG and quality gear since i'll have more money by then.


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