you'll have to aim A LOT higher to achieve the same range a BB has when hopped.

And rifling the barrel won't replace hop-up. all it does is stabilize the projectile, not add lift to it.

I doubt this pellet will have nearly as much range as a hopped BB, even though it may fly faster (by being less effected by drag, if this shape actually does that...)

and on another note- if this pellet really does create less drag and looses less energy along its flight, we will have to reconsider the safety range!
as of today snipers with 500 FPS can only shoot at people 30 meters and over (where I play) because at these ranges the BB lost enough energy and dosn't do much damage.
What if these pellets dont loose energy? if at 30 meters its still carrying 3 jouls then the MED should be increased!
add that to the fact that without hop-up it won't even get that far and your left with this:

a projectile that has no range, but can hurt people.
epic fail.

Well if this thing holds the group together (accuracy) I really don't care if I have to aim higher.Just need to put a range card together ,just like RS.Gravity sucks,that's all there is to it. Even a 3.08 175 gr sighted for 200 needs approx 31 min of angle(depending on load) to reach a 1000.Sniping is not that easy at distance,but if the bb is accurate ,that's over1/2 the battle, just have to learn your come ups :D

By the way, I finially got my forums working.
http://int.hsairsoft.com
You can get an account if you wish, responds will be quicker and my friend that is designing the bullet can answer your questions personally.

Happy new year everyone!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...DSC_328122.jpg

Yes they are pointy, no they won't stay pointy.

They almost look like pellets for airguns but with 2 skirts overlapping.

Am I the only one who thinks that the tip of the bullet kinda looks like titties???

Looks pretty good but I'm thinking that why couldn't you have built something from scratch and make it a drop in kit or something. Like a total redesign from the ground up rather than taking the current build and modifying certain parts? Would the "from scratch" build cost more in R&D vs. the "modify certain parts" path?

Are you doing preliminary testing yet? I'd like to see a grouping at different ranges. Would it be possible to modify the bullets to something heavier though? .12 seems kinda light in my mind I know it's already been discussed to hell and back though so whatever your R&D finds is the magic formula is fine. Maybe a .15 or .18 version?

I agree. Airsoft pron at it's best.

Looks like this has come a long way from the first page.

Looking good bro.....any luck with any ballistic testing at ranges yet??

SHA DO

no more news/updates on this?

any body ever try these in an airsoft gun? RAP4 has 6mm fin stabalized bbs.
http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/rap...00-p-2943.html
Looks really low quality hhahaa

cant wait to see these AP bbs come out. any updates?

their website is giving errors : /

I want to see some updates too - vrey promising proudct.

I have a feeling the bb drop will be disappointing:( I know they will have a much better flight path than a bb with no hop. But have you seriously ever shot a gun with no hop up/ hop up turned off? If look like there is hop up forcing it down.

I hope you can get atleast a good 150feet with this product without having your barrel at a 45 degree angle facing the sky.

6mm Ballistic Funbags................ yes.

Pure shit: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forum...8722&hl=airfin

The difference with these is that there are no "fins", and the indents that circle the circumferance of the shaft will generate lift, but at what cost to the FPS?? I'm still waiting to see what "at range" ballistic readings will be with the gun equivantly set up to crony 0.20 weight BBs.
I haven't given up hope on this just yet.

SHA DO